black kitchen

[Julie-Ann]

What about a shadow line all around the kitchen? I am not sure of how that would look with the tiled wall but I wouldn't think any different to how a shadow line looks on plastered walls?

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[mjm]

not quite sure what you mean buy a shadow line all around the room? no cornice anywhere? ok I added a little colour

[Julie-Ann]

You are very clever with your programme.
A shadow line is no cornice and a little gap between the edge of the wall and the ceiling. The gap width varies. These are the best 2 pictures I can find. I am not sure how to do it with an existing ceiling but it would be worth asking your brother about.

[mjm]

I still don't get it, to me it just looks like there is no cornice at all and the wall just meets the ceiling? or is it about the bulkhead thing going on? where the ceiling is dropped down a bit? or is it like a boxed cornice?

oh hang on, is the difference that the ceiling butts up against the wall as opposed to the wall going up and butting up to the ceiling maybe?

ah, hubby just explained it, something about the ceiling stopping short of the walls and some corner angle thing going in there instead... lol he also said it is too much work

[Julie-Ann]

This drawing might help explain. The ceiling doesn't look like it joins the wall. It appears as though there is a gap between them. In reality the ceiling just steps up and joins the wall at a higher point. Does that make sense? But I'm not sure if it can be done on an existing ceiling- your brother would know better.

The other option is to have no cornices in the kitchen at all and just have the ceiling meet the walls.

[mjm]

ahhhh I see now, well we don't have cornice up yet so I don't know that it would be too hard to do... but I'm liking more the wall just meeting the ceiling as that requires nothing to do :-)

oh, actually it does, there is the bit behind the fridge that would need filling in with somehing.. above the stove would be ok cause dh could tile all the way up to the ceiling and coverr that exposed bit under where the cornice would be

was thinking I'll put in a full height door next to the fridge so we didn't have to worry about cornice, but I was just looking at another full height door we have in the house and it still has the cornice above it, so the frame is never going to go up to a 2400 height ceiling..

problem with not having cornice in there is, where do I end it? with both the outer walls being walls that on the other side of them there is cornice to match the rest of the family and dining areas

if I end it on those end two walls (the one to the right of the pantry and the one to the left of those big draws) will the wall on the other side of the pantry look odd? will the splash back area ... umm forgot where I was going with this, I don't mind the last pic that I did where the cornice stops at the left side of the pantry, and I could put in a full size door and cornice above that, but no I can't cause cornice doesn't just end does it? bit like a circle, neverending, ok no cornice I think is going to have to do it, but where to end it?
I'm sure we could fashion up some sort of 2400 frame if they don't make them already

more colouring in, I was bored

[mjm]

actually ya know what, I just remembered all this is just so we can keep the over head cupboard, I'm just gonna bite the bullet and go with your suggestion and put in shelves julie, although it is quite a deep area

what do I do about behind it? the back wall will show? paint it the wall colour?
I do like those little wicker or straw basket things, two long red boxes maybe to organise filing, maybe too high up to be convenient? although I don't like looking at the bills often anyway

[Julie-Ann]

If it was my kitchen mjm I would do the shelf idea. The baskets will give you great storage and really suit your look.
Cupboards or shelves above the fridge are only 300-350mm deep. If you create a false back with gyprock that will work. If you have it the depth of the fridge they are difficult to get at the back.
I think this idea with cornices to match the rest of the house will be the classiest finish. So I guess now we owe your brother a BBQ and a carton of beer for all this gyprock work. He would also be the perfect person to put the cornice up for you. Joining the corners of cornice pieces is an art.

[mjm]

well its not like he didn't know this day would be coming :-)

drawing cane baskets is too hard, ok just for a starter

[Briony]

I've just seen a couple of articles in a magazine (Kitchens and Bathrooms Quarterly) with photos of kitchens with black benchtops and splashbacks... they look amazing. One has a black splashback made of tiles... have scanned the articles but don't think the quality would be any good if I attached here (and I can't figure out how to resize the pdf files anyway!?!) PM me if you'd like me to email the full do***ents!